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	<title>Comments on: Linden Regroups and the Kids Are In</title>
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		<title>By: Artificial Boy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SL5B</title>
		<link>http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2008/06/03/linden-regroups-and-the-kids-are-in/comment-page-1/#comment-1006</link>
		<dc:creator>Artificial Boy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SL5B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Linden Lab&#174; will allow builds in the names of the PG kids groups such as SLC and BSSL. This comment by Katt Linden on Dusan Writer&#8217;s Metaverse&#8217;s blog post Linden Regroups and the Kids Are In. On [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Linden Lab&reg; will allow builds in the names of the PG kids groups such as SLC and BSSL. This comment by Katt Linden on Dusan Writer&#8217;s Metaverse&#8217;s blog post Linden Regroups and the Kids Are In. On [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Regenbogen</title>
		<link>http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2008/06/03/linden-regroups-and-the-kids-are-in/comment-page-1/#comment-996</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Regenbogen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems the reaction of Kids5B will be to proceed with our project and apply with it for the official celebrations. We would set up an info point, maybe with a 3d sculpty model of our SIMs and with staff introducing it. And a TP to our SIMs (where we would invite LL to have a promo place and a TP back to the official SL5B SIMs).

On behalf of many kid avatars, I&#039;d like to thank all who supported us during these chaotic days. It was extremely encouraging to see that we are not alone in this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems the reaction of Kids5B will be to proceed with our project and apply with it for the official celebrations. We would set up an info point, maybe with a 3d sculpty model of our SIMs and with staff introducing it. And a TP to our SIMs (where we would invite LL to have a promo place and a TP back to the official SL5B SIMs).</p>
<p>On behalf of many kid avatars, I&#8217;d like to thank all who supported us during these chaotic days. It was extremely encouraging to see that we are not alone in this.</p>
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		<title>By: Dusan</title>
		<link>http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2008/06/03/linden-regroups-and-the-kids-are-in/comment-page-1/#comment-992</link>
		<dc:creator>Dusan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the clarification Katt...and it&#039;s nice to see a Linden contribute outside of the LL blog! That means a lot, and the outreach is a really wonderful sign of listening and attempting to clarify, to bring some light to what became a very murky situation.

I&#039;m afraid the comment Tomas made, and perhaps my own slant - is that while it&#039;s good that you&#039;ve clarified, and good that you&#039;re reiterating your desire for the full participation of the community, there&#039;s some skepticism which was probably avoidable. For the sake of moving forward however, I really do accept your assurance, Katt. 

I also understand that you do reserve the right to review the applications before you accept them - but the skepticism will be confirmed if there isn&#039;t a pretty valid reason for excluding someone.

I also think that the &#039;split&#039; between the two types of representations of the community isn&#039;t such a bad idea either. The Grid is meant to embrace everyone - the power of a virtual world isn&#039;t contained to immersionists or augmentationists it&#039;s a full range, a spectrum - whoever can make something of the tools should be welcome to. However, while this is articulated more globally, I think sometimes mixed signals are sent to the community.

Katt - please stop by more often...or if not here, elsewhere...it really is a different level of engagement than what is often perceived as the &quot;blog and hide&quot; approach that&#039;s sometimes taken on the main site.

OK...now having said all THAT....proof in the pudding and so on...let the celebration preparations begin, wherever you plan to hold them, whether at the official event, your own, or on OpenSim :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the clarification Katt&#8230;and it&#8217;s nice to see a Linden contribute outside of the LL blog! That means a lot, and the outreach is a really wonderful sign of listening and attempting to clarify, to bring some light to what became a very murky situation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid the comment Tomas made, and perhaps my own slant &#8211; is that while it&#8217;s good that you&#8217;ve clarified, and good that you&#8217;re reiterating your desire for the full participation of the community, there&#8217;s some skepticism which was probably avoidable. For the sake of moving forward however, I really do accept your assurance, Katt. </p>
<p>I also understand that you do reserve the right to review the applications before you accept them &#8211; but the skepticism will be confirmed if there isn&#8217;t a pretty valid reason for excluding someone.</p>
<p>I also think that the &#8216;split&#8217; between the two types of representations of the community isn&#8217;t such a bad idea either. The Grid is meant to embrace everyone &#8211; the power of a virtual world isn&#8217;t contained to immersionists or augmentationists it&#8217;s a full range, a spectrum &#8211; whoever can make something of the tools should be welcome to. However, while this is articulated more globally, I think sometimes mixed signals are sent to the community.</p>
<p>Katt &#8211; please stop by more often&#8230;or if not here, elsewhere&#8230;it really is a different level of engagement than what is often perceived as the &#8220;blog and hide&#8221; approach that&#8217;s sometimes taken on the main site.</p>
<p>OK&#8230;now having said all THAT&#8230;.proof in the pudding and so on&#8230;let the celebration preparations begin, wherever you plan to hold them, whether at the official event, your own, or on OpenSim <img src='http://dusanwriter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TomasG</title>
		<link>http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2008/06/03/linden-regroups-and-the-kids-are-in/comment-page-1/#comment-991</link>
		<dc:creator>TomasG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that they have clarifies anything.
First the word was kids couldn&#039;t participate.

Then that was &quot;clarified&quot; to mean they could attend but any submissions would be rejected,

Then that was further &quot;clarified&quot; to mean that kids could submit builds, but it couldn&#039;t refer to the kids community in anyway.

Now, the &quot;clarification&quot; is anyone can submit a build as long as it&#039;s PG. Which is all well and good, but the re-wording doesn&#039;t change anything. Just the same thing only worded differently to make it more palatable and try to stem the controversy.

Sorry I don&#039;t buy it.
Tomas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that they have clarifies anything.<br />
First the word was kids couldn&#8217;t participate.</p>
<p>Then that was &#8220;clarified&#8221; to mean they could attend but any submissions would be rejected,</p>
<p>Then that was further &#8220;clarified&#8221; to mean that kids could submit builds, but it couldn&#8217;t refer to the kids community in anyway.</p>
<p>Now, the &#8220;clarification&#8221; is anyone can submit a build as long as it&#8217;s PG. Which is all well and good, but the re-wording doesn&#8217;t change anything. Just the same thing only worded differently to make it more palatable and try to stem the controversy.</p>
<p>Sorry I don&#8217;t buy it.<br />
Tomas</p>
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		<title>By: Katt Linden</title>
		<link>http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2008/06/03/linden-regroups-and-the-kids-are-in/comment-page-1/#comment-988</link>
		<dc:creator>Katt Linden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dusan,

It doesn&#039;t matter what sort of avatar you have, everyone interested can submit builds to the Birthday Celebration.

If any submissions aren&#039;t accepted it&#039;ll be because they are too &quot;adult&quot; in nature, not because of the looks of the avatar.

As someone involved in the original brainstorming about adding to the celebration, I assure you that we&#039;re trying to make it more fun and valuable for everyone, full stop.

Thanks,
-- Katt Linden</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dusan,</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter what sort of avatar you have, everyone interested can submit builds to the Birthday Celebration.</p>
<p>If any submissions aren&#8217;t accepted it&#8217;ll be because they are too &#8220;adult&#8221; in nature, not because of the looks of the avatar.</p>
<p>As someone involved in the original brainstorming about adding to the celebration, I assure you that we&#8217;re trying to make it more fun and valuable for everyone, full stop.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
&#8211; Katt Linden</p>
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