Comments on: Where Virtual Worlds are Going: Why is the New What, How is for Tomorrow (Report on 3DTLC) http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/04/26/where-virtual-worlds-are-going-why-is-the-new-what-how-is-for-tomorrow-report-on-3dtlc/ Virtual worlds and creativity, business, collaboration, and identity. Thu, 07 Jul 2011 19:08:27 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Dusan Writer’s Metaverse » Blog Search Terms: David Hockney Gets a Prim Composer http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/04/26/where-virtual-worlds-are-going-why-is-the-new-what-how-is-for-tomorrow-report-on-3dtlc/comment-page-1/#comment-106301 Dusan Writer’s Metaverse » Blog Search Terms: David Hockney Gets a Prim Composer Sat, 24 Oct 2009 01:56:50 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=1224#comment-106301 [...] some reason David Hockney is the number two search term after “dusan writer” based on a piece I wrote some time ago that wasn’t really about David Hockney at all but rather a longer post about [...] [...] some reason David Hockney is the number two search term after “dusan writer” based on a piece I wrote some time ago that wasn’t really about David Hockney at all but rather a longer post about [...]

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By: Dusan Writer’s Metaverse » Selling Virtual Worlds for Business: Change and the Future of the Enterprise http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/04/26/where-virtual-worlds-are-going-why-is-the-new-what-how-is-for-tomorrow-report-on-3dtlc/comment-page-1/#comment-66804 Dusan Writer’s Metaverse » Selling Virtual Worlds for Business: Change and the Future of the Enterprise Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:14:56 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=1224#comment-66804 [...] something which I wrote about following the 3DTLC conference in February. At the time, I called this the shift from “why” to “what”, and the hot button topics weren’t [...] [...] something which I wrote about following the 3DTLC conference in February. At the time, I called this the shift from “why” to “what”, and the hot button topics weren’t [...]

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By: Tabliopa Underwood http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/04/26/where-virtual-worlds-are-going-why-is-the-new-what-how-is-for-tomorrow-report-on-3dtlc/comment-page-1/#comment-46868 Tabliopa Underwood Fri, 08 May 2009 10:01:03 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=1224#comment-46868 Dont know who came up with it first but the name, Grid, works for me. We have the Web (2D) and the Grid (3D). They the same thing really in what theyre for. Is games on the Web but we dont refer to the Web as a game. Same with the Grid. Is games on the Grid, virtual worlds even, but they only one aspect of it really even if at the moment they pretty much all of it. Be lots of other ordinary everyday uses on the Grid soon I think just like there is on the Web. Also I think the Grid in a Web browser is not really the way to go. Is to much difference in how the Grid and the Web work. Is possible to do of course but what has been done to marry the two has been pretty clunky to use even if is a technical kool in some cases. Probably be best I think to make a Grid Browser from new. The Web and Grid have about as much in common as say a word processor and a video-editing program. Dont know who came up with it first but the name, Grid, works for me. We have the Web (2D) and the Grid (3D). They the same thing really in what theyre for. Is games on the Web but we dont refer to the Web as a game. Same with the Grid. Is games on the Grid, virtual worlds even, but they only one aspect of it really even if at the moment they pretty much all of it. Be lots of other ordinary everyday uses on the Grid soon I think just like there is on the Web.

Also I think the Grid in a Web browser is not really the way to go. Is to much difference in how the Grid and the Web work. Is possible to do of course but what has been done to marry the two has been pretty clunky to use even if is a technical kool in some cases. Probably be best I think to make a Grid Browser from new. The Web and Grid have about as much in common as say a word processor and a video-editing program.

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By: Back-to-Back Virtual World Conferences - Technology http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/04/26/where-virtual-worlds-are-going-why-is-the-new-what-how-is-for-tomorrow-report-on-3dtlc/comment-page-1/#comment-45809 Back-to-Back Virtual World Conferences - Technology Fri, 01 May 2009 19:05:46 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=1224#comment-45809 [...] Where Virtual Worlds are Going: Why is the New What, How is for Tomorrow (Report on 3DTLC) [...] [...] Where Virtual Worlds are Going: Why is the New What, How is for Tomorrow (Report on 3DTLC) [...]

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By: Prokofy Neva http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/04/26/where-virtual-worlds-are-going-why-is-the-new-what-how-is-for-tomorrow-report-on-3dtlc/comment-page-1/#comment-45684 Prokofy Neva Fri, 01 May 2009 02:28:19 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=1224#comment-45684 I think you're safe if you call it just blandly "online". "Online" is one of those words that people accept, and it sounds modern and "focused". So you can then say "online meeting". Or "online space", and then it all goes down more easily. I think you’re safe if you call it just blandly “online”. “Online” is one of those words that people accept, and it sounds modern and “focused”. So you can then say “online meeting”. Or “online space”, and then it all goes down more easily.

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By: Pooky Amsterdam http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/04/26/where-virtual-worlds-are-going-why-is-the-new-what-how-is-for-tomorrow-report-on-3dtlc/comment-page-1/#comment-45254 Pooky Amsterdam Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:55:18 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=1224#comment-45254 "Because the richness of virtual worlds is increasingly an ecosystem of connections and content that bleeds from Web to world" One of my favorite passages from the above- It is persistent, it is rich and it engages the adult mind in ways that makes the mind want to do more. Even to justify the tiem we spend in SL, we begin to live up to best practices as human beings. If thsis can bleed from web to world, aye, so much the better for all of us. “Because the richness of virtual worlds is increasingly an ecosystem of connections and content that bleeds from Web to world”
One of my favorite passages from the above-

It is persistent, it is rich and it engages the adult mind in ways that makes the mind want to do more. Even to justify the tiem we spend in SL, we begin to live up to best practices as human beings.
If thsis can bleed from web to world, aye, so much the better for all of us.

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By: Rick van der Wal http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/04/26/where-virtual-worlds-are-going-why-is-the-new-what-how-is-for-tomorrow-report-on-3dtlc/comment-page-1/#comment-45186 Rick van der Wal Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:03:16 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=1224#comment-45186 <i>"I’m not sure who these people are pitching to, but maybe they need to find the folks in the corporate chain with a little more imagination than someone who convulses and twitches if you use the words ‘game’ or ‘virtual worlds’."</i> Loved that quote :) Good read as usual. Still think it will be a while before the 'why' takes of. The paradox of these big brand companies is even though they bring weight to the discussion for the evangelists, they don't work as well in the the offices of real world clients. These companies are everywhere, have huge R&D budgets and often push innovation themselves (IBM & SUN) so they don't really make the case for the >F500 companies. That's our experience at least :) “I’m not sure who these people are pitching to, but maybe they need to find the folks in the corporate chain with a little more imagination than someone who convulses and twitches if you use the words ‘game’ or ‘virtual worlds’.”

Loved that quote :) Good read as usual. Still think it will be a while before the ‘why’ takes of. The paradox of these big brand companies is even though they bring weight to the discussion for the evangelists, they don’t work as well in the the offices of real world clients. These companies are everywhere, have huge R&D budgets and often push innovation themselves (IBM & SUN) so they don’t really make the case for the >F500 companies. That’s our experience at least :)

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By: Valiant Westland http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/04/26/where-virtual-worlds-are-going-why-is-the-new-what-how-is-for-tomorrow-report-on-3dtlc/comment-page-1/#comment-45029 Valiant Westland Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:17:59 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=1224#comment-45029 The words we use to describe Virtual Worlds have a tremendous impact on how people perceive their potential value. If we say, "its really not a game," the person we are speaking to will focus on the word "game" and be suspicious that it's really nothing more than just that, a game. But if we say Virtual Worlds are "game-changing and transformative technology," the person starts thinking "how can we use this to be more competitive and win!?" As you pointed out, the word "immersive" works the same way. This is one word I just don't use, unless I'm talking about a training scenario where complete focus on the VW environment is desirable. The phrase most business people seem to respond positively to is "3D Web Collaboration." They "get" this. People know what the web is and better collaboration, be it internal, with suppliers or customers, is something every business needs/wants. All that's left is to show them the advantages of "3D" and the features, functions & benefits it provides. Getting people through this "virtual door" is the key. They can then be guided towards 3D content and applications that engage their own creative imagination. Once this "spark" ignites, people will actively seek out solutions and partners to help them maximize their Metaverse Potential. The words we use to describe Virtual Worlds have a tremendous impact on how people perceive their potential value. If we say, “its really not a game,” the person we are speaking to will focus on the word “game” and be suspicious that it’s really nothing more than just that, a game. But if we say Virtual Worlds are “game-changing and transformative technology,” the person starts thinking “how can we use this to be more competitive and win!?”

As you pointed out, the word “immersive” works the same way. This is one word I just don’t use, unless I’m talking about a training scenario where complete focus on the VW environment is desirable.

The phrase most business people seem to respond positively to is “3D Web Collaboration.” They “get” this. People know what the web is and better collaboration, be it internal, with suppliers or customers, is something every business needs/wants. All that’s left is to show them the advantages of “3D” and the features, functions & benefits it provides.

Getting people through this “virtual door” is the key. They can then be guided towards 3D content and applications that engage their own creative imagination. Once this “spark” ignites, people will actively seek out solutions and partners to help them maximize their Metaverse Potential.

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By: Dusan http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/04/26/where-virtual-worlds-are-going-why-is-the-new-what-how-is-for-tomorrow-report-on-3dtlc/comment-page-1/#comment-44963 Dusan Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:42:04 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=1224#comment-44963 Nice. Thanks for that c3. Nice. Thanks for that c3.

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By: cube3 http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/04/26/where-virtual-worlds-are-going-why-is-the-new-what-how-is-for-tomorrow-report-on-3dtlc/comment-page-1/#comment-44947 cube3 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:35:41 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=1224#comment-44947 Maybe RT3D media is like God. It has many names and it only exists on faith. Less time naming/writing/conferencing...more time doing/learning/exploring for more than just a few. That would really mean more to a better tommorrow for the medium.:) Interestingly enough, last night we had about a dozen "web3d.oh;)" virgins show up from all differnt platforms/in many different browsers, and chat about and watch some video clips from a late night TV show. The shows Host/creator joined us for the test. All were tv/ website media savy creators of film/print/media etc. All had never done any "second lives" though some had played video games in youth or on consoles in the last years..etc... Through the typical "bugs" and "limitations" that dont make it in the press releases or conference canned demos, we managed to "communicate" using realtime 3d media to augment the text chat and video viewing. Plus a few misplaced "dance" gestures got a laugh from those not part of the metablog hype and yet unaware of the looming crackdowns on adult virtual gyrations to come.:) BTW- this audience was not a target market for the technology/service used. But they all expressed interest in MORE.:) So tommorrow comes anyway, no matter what a transitory conference speaker calls it:) So Millions of US, is now back to Hundreds, at the conferences? But what of the millions to come to the worlds. not to the conferences? So much more there to DO. :) c3 Maybe RT3D media is like God.
It has many names and it only exists on faith.

Less time naming/writing/conferencing…more time doing/learning/exploring for more than just a few. That would really mean more to a better tommorrow for the medium.:)

Interestingly enough, last night we had about a dozen “web3d.oh;)” virgins show up from all differnt platforms/in many different browsers, and chat about and watch some video clips from a late night TV show. The shows Host/creator joined us for the test. All were tv/ website media savy creators of film/print/media etc. All had never done any “second lives” though some had played video games in youth or on consoles in the last years..etc…

Through the typical “bugs” and “limitations” that dont make it in the press releases or conference canned demos, we managed to “communicate” using realtime 3d media to augment the text chat and video viewing. Plus a few misplaced “dance” gestures got a laugh from those not part of the metablog hype and yet unaware of the looming crackdowns on adult virtual gyrations to come.:)
BTW- this audience was not a target market for the technology/service used. But they all expressed interest in MORE.:)

So tommorrow comes anyway, no matter what a transitory conference speaker calls it:)

So Millions of US, is now back to Hundreds, at the conferences?

But what of the millions to come to the worlds. not to the conferences? So much more there to DO.

:)
c3

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