Comments on: The Power of -In: Second Life’s Dynamic Web Interface http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/09/30/the-power-of-in-second-lifes-dynamic-web-interface/ Virtual worlds and creativity, business, collaboration, and identity. Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:17:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Chromutate: Dynamic Building by Opensource Obscure « SL Art HUD Blog Thingie: http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/09/30/the-power-of-in-second-lifes-dynamic-web-interface/comment-page-1/#comment-150770 Chromutate: Dynamic Building by Opensource Obscure « SL Art HUD Blog Thingie: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 08:33:08 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=1397#comment-150770 [...] HTTP-IN allows Web sites to communicate with in-world prims and speeds up the protocols and increases the capacity from previous ways of accomplishing Web-to-world communication. When combined with the forthcoming MediaAPI, HTTP-IN will provide some pretty mind-boggling opportunities for data visualization and transmedia content, including the dynamic transport of data from Web to world and back again. I imaging a day when a build in Second Life will display content from Web pages with which we can directly interact. Let’s say you update a sales spread sheet in world, in real time, with your entire sales team present. As you update the spread sheet, the data is communicated out to a Web site which keeps track of and displays the data, while at the same time the data communicates with in-world prims to create a living landscape of moving, shifting prims that truly let you “walk through the data”. ~ Dusan Writer [...] [...] HTTP-IN allows Web sites to communicate with in-world prims and speeds up the protocols and increases the capacity from previous ways of accomplishing Web-to-world communication. When combined with the forthcoming MediaAPI, HTTP-IN will provide some pretty mind-boggling opportunities for data visualization and transmedia content, including the dynamic transport of data from Web to world and back again. I imaging a day when a build in Second Life will display content from Web pages with which we can directly interact. Let’s say you update a sales spread sheet in world, in real time, with your entire sales team present. As you update the spread sheet, the data is communicated out to a Web site which keeps track of and displays the data, while at the same time the data communicates with in-world prims to create a living landscape of moving, shifting prims that truly let you “walk through the data”. ~ Dusan Writer [...]

]]> By: Opensource Obscure http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/09/30/the-power-of-in-second-lifes-dynamic-web-interface/comment-page-1/#comment-113497 Opensource Obscure Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:33:18 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=1397#comment-113497 Dusan, thank you very much for this coverage. I'm still working on my web-based installation, and looking for collaborations. By the way, could you please change the 2 last links? The page for interact with the installation is now <a href="http://alisl.org/chromutate" rel="nofollow">http://alisl.org/chromutate</a>. Thanks in advance! Dusan,
thank you very much for this coverage. I’m still working on my web-based installation, and looking for collaborations.

By the way, could you please change the 2 last links? The page for interact with the installation is now
http://alisl.org/chromutate. Thanks in advance!

]]> By: Brian Bauer http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/09/30/the-power-of-in-second-lifes-dynamic-web-interface/comment-page-1/#comment-99880 Brian Bauer Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:50:12 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=1397#comment-99880 this thread is a bit tough to follow, but here are a couple of thoughts: 1. I tend to think of VR platforms as operating systems. we all know the history of the big 4 OS's that dominate today: Windows, Linux, Unix, Mac.(forget about midrange and mainframes for now) 2. Applications are written for a specific operating system. In some cases, certain applications have versions that are written for more than one operating system, but each version is a little bit different. 3. Global Transaction processing, as an example, passes data between applications that run on various operating systems, but in each case, there are "handlers" that enable transaction hand-offs 4. In some cases, these "handlers" do translations, in other cases they simply "wrap" the native transaction in such a way that next application in the chain can work with the transaction 5. Industry has demonstrated a historical path for systems integration and cross-platform data handling. It is a model that may not be a panacea of efficiency, but it is understood and accepted. 6. as a result of sufficient systems integration, we find that various industries gravitate towards certain operating systems and the applications that run on these systems. 7. What we have not seen, at least in the 2 decades that I have been paying attention, is the successful delivery and broad acceptance of an Uber OS that replace all others. lots of reasons for this, but it is the case. it took Linux a decade to find an enterprise class production niche,and it is still one of 4 major OS's. 8. If VR platforms are the equivalent of OS's in my model, I figure it is safe to say that "in the beginning" we will see lots of OS's. Some will make it mainstream, others will not. Over time, we will see the emergence of a handful of Enterprise OS's that run all the "applications"(i.e. VR-based functionality) 9. We can fight this future, or we can take the path of least resistance and focus our energies on delivering VR based functionality to businesses I don't claim to have all the answers, or to be "right", but this is my opinion as of 11:50am EST on 10/2/2009. this thread is a bit tough to follow, but here are a couple of thoughts:
1. I tend to think of VR platforms as operating systems. we all know the history of the big 4 OS’s that dominate today: Windows, Linux, Unix, Mac.(forget about midrange and mainframes for now)
2. Applications are written for a specific operating system. In some cases, certain applications have versions that are written for more than one operating system, but each version is a little bit different.
3. Global Transaction processing, as an example, passes data between applications that run on various operating systems, but in each case, there are “handlers” that enable transaction hand-offs
4. In some cases, these “handlers” do translations, in other cases they simply “wrap” the native transaction in such a way that next application in the chain can work with the transaction
5. Industry has demonstrated a historical path for systems integration and cross-platform data handling. It is a model that may not be a panacea of efficiency, but it is understood and accepted.
6. as a result of sufficient systems integration, we find that various industries gravitate towards certain operating systems and the applications that run on these systems.
7. What we have not seen, at least in the 2 decades that I have been paying attention, is the successful delivery and broad acceptance of an Uber OS that replace all others. lots of reasons for this, but it is the case. it took Linux a decade to find an enterprise class production niche,and it is still one of 4 major OS’s.
8. If VR platforms are the equivalent of OS’s in my model, I figure it is safe to say that “in the beginning” we will see lots of OS’s. Some will make it mainstream, others will not. Over time, we will see the emergence of a handful of Enterprise OS’s that run all the “applications”(i.e. VR-based functionality)
9. We can fight this future, or we can take the path of least resistance and focus our energies on delivering VR based functionality to businesses

I don’t claim to have all the answers, or to be “right”, but this is my opinion as of 11:50am EST on 10/2/2009.

]]> By: cube http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/09/30/the-power-of-in-second-lifes-dynamic-web-interface/comment-page-1/#comment-99633 cube Fri, 02 Oct 2009 02:17:25 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=1397#comment-99633 yes. i was agreeing with you. and no Linden isnt adobe, but adobe now wants to be linden;) or at least follow in it's SAS biz plan. funny thing is that 99% of those companies plans fail right away, and we can only hope the 1% that seem to take over, WILL fail sometime.;) yes. i was agreeing with you. and no Linden isnt adobe, but adobe now wants to be linden;) or at least follow in it’s SAS biz plan.

funny thing is that 99% of those companies plans fail right away, and we can only hope the 1% that seem to take over, WILL fail sometime.;)

]]> By: Dusan http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/09/30/the-power-of-in-second-lifes-dynamic-web-interface/comment-page-1/#comment-99193 Dusan Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:32:31 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=1397#comment-99193 Cube - not sure I follow (aside from the history lesson, of course). I'm saying that it WON'T take a single company - Forterra and Protosphere are vulnerable because they're stand-alone, although I'm sure they partner with 3D companies etc. And Linden Lab isn't today's Adobe - but it needs an ecosystem of companies if things like Nebraska are to succeed. Or are we agreeing? Sometimes I just don't know what to make of you hahaha. :) Cube – not sure I follow (aside from the history lesson, of course).

I’m saying that it WON’T take a single company – Forterra and Protosphere are vulnerable because they’re stand-alone, although I’m sure they partner with 3D companies etc. And Linden Lab isn’t today’s Adobe – but it needs an ecosystem of companies if things like Nebraska are to succeed.

Or are we agreeing? Sometimes I just don’t know what to make of you hahaha. :)

]]> By: cube http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2009/09/30/the-power-of-in-second-lifes-dynamic-web-interface/comment-page-1/#comment-99165 cube Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:59:45 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=1397#comment-99165 Single companies do not make profession. There were 2-3 web3d tech companies that kept going as "themselves" after 1999 bubble one. They were funded, and treid to do it ALL themselves, from creative. to service, to production for all clients. needless to ay, even if i mentioned their names, very few on this blog reader list would know who they were. If every designer had to work for Adobe what communications industry would there be...... oh wait, that seems to be the future.;) Single companies do not make profession. There were 2-3 web3d tech companies that kept going as “themselves” after 1999 bubble one. They were funded, and treid to do it ALL themselves, from creative. to service, to production for all clients.

needless to ay, even if i mentioned their names, very few on this blog reader list would know who they were.

If every designer had to work for Adobe what communications industry would there be…… oh wait, that seems to be the future.;)

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