Comments on: Second Life Refresh: In Case You’ve Forgotten Why http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/05/16/second-life-refresh-in-case-youve-forgotten-why/ Virtual worlds and creativity, business, collaboration, and identity. Sat, 02 Jul 2011 20:45:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: samlowry hawks http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/05/16/second-life-refresh-in-case-youve-forgotten-why/comment-page-1/#comment-199391 samlowry hawks Sat, 29 May 2010 18:32:38 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2259#comment-199391 @ Prokofy Neva: http://maconsl.free.fr/?p=2657 Aannnnnnd Cut! :))))) Enjoy your day sir :) @ Prokofy Neva: http://maconsl.free.fr/?p=2657
Aannnnnnd Cut! :) ))))
Enjoy your day sir :)

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By: Health 2.0 News: DNA Robots and Collaborative Prezi Editing « ScienceRoll http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/05/16/second-life-refresh-in-case-youve-forgotten-why/comment-page-1/#comment-198986 Health 2.0 News: DNA Robots and Collaborative Prezi Editing « ScienceRoll Fri, 28 May 2010 13:37:13 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2259#comment-198986 [...] Second Life Refresh: In Case You’ve Forgotten Why (Dusan Writer’s Metaverse): [...] [...] Second Life Refresh: In Case You’ve Forgotten Why (Dusan Writer’s Metaverse): [...]

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By: aoimizuno http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/05/16/second-life-refresh-in-case-youve-forgotten-why/comment-page-1/#comment-197801 aoimizuno Mon, 24 May 2010 02:48:47 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2259#comment-197801 I thank you so much such a nice video introduced my SIM. It's so beautiful;) I thank you so much such a nice video introduced my SIM.
It’s so beautiful;)

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By: Prokofy Neva http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/05/16/second-life-refresh-in-case-youve-forgotten-why/comment-page-1/#comment-197770 Prokofy Neva Sun, 23 May 2010 22:52:40 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2259#comment-197770 Marx? (!) There's no "hate" here. The hate originates with Sam Lowry's hate of sex, money, and mass culture in the original video, something that Dusan resonated to. That's the hate. And I step, and I say: stop the hate. And that what is being proferred to us as "better" is in fact saccharine kitsch. And I know I'm right about that. There are tons of better machinimas about there with far greater skills and aesthetics. But those aren't referenced here. Because what SL Booster Number One is doing here is running a "let's all get happy about SL and not be negative" Public Service Message here. I wish Second Life was real. I wish we had real culture. I wish we had real cultural critics. http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2010/05/carter-liveoak-bans-me-from-heron-island-still-banned-at-luskwood.html Marx? (!) There’s no “hate” here. The hate originates with Sam Lowry’s hate of sex, money, and mass culture in the original video, something that Dusan resonated to.

That’s the hate.

And I step, and I say: stop the hate. And that what is being proferred to us as “better” is in fact saccharine kitsch. And I know I’m right about that.

There are tons of better machinimas about there with far greater skills and aesthetics. But those aren’t referenced here. Because what SL Booster Number One is doing here is running a “let’s all get happy about SL and not be negative” Public Service Message here.

I wish Second Life was real.

I wish we had real culture.

I wish we had real cultural critics.

http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2010/05/carter-liveoak-bans-me-from-heron-island-still-banned-at-luskwood.html

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By: Marx Dudek http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/05/16/second-life-refresh-in-case-youve-forgotten-why/comment-page-1/#comment-197730 Marx Dudek Sun, 23 May 2010 19:39:44 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2259#comment-197730 Also, does no one remember that "Sam Lowry" was the Winston Smith-type character in Terry Gilliam's brilliant film, "Brazil"? Also, does no one remember that “Sam Lowry” was the Winston Smith-type character in Terry Gilliam’s brilliant film, “Brazil”?

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By: Marx Dudek http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/05/16/second-life-refresh-in-case-youve-forgotten-why/comment-page-1/#comment-197662 Marx Dudek Sun, 23 May 2010 13:39:47 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2259#comment-197662 You're surprised about controversy and hate from Prokofy Neva? You’re surprised about controversy and hate from Prokofy Neva?

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By: More than just another Steampunk Store : Moonletters http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/05/16/second-life-refresh-in-case-youve-forgotten-why/comment-page-1/#comment-197303 More than just another Steampunk Store : Moonletters Sat, 22 May 2010 06:07:38 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2259#comment-197303 [...] by the Sam Lowry video that has appeared Dusan Writer’s Metaverse and New World Notes, I decided to take a look at LPP SteamPunk and Cyber Doll, using one of the [...] [...] by the Sam Lowry video that has appeared Dusan Writer’s Metaverse and New World Notes, I decided to take a look at LPP SteamPunk and Cyber Doll, using one of the [...]

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By: Prokofy Neva http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/05/16/second-life-refresh-in-case-youve-forgotten-why/comment-page-1/#comment-196271 Prokofy Neva Wed, 19 May 2010 02:46:35 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2259#comment-196271 Sam, you're pushing that usual false position one encounters so often among the geeks of SL: that if I criticize your position, which I loathe; if I say you're wrong; if I say I have another point of view, you thrash and beat your chest and claim I've told you that you can't have an opinion or I've somehow stopped you from your freedom of expression. What other tripe. You had your freedom of expression. And, um, now it's my turn, and I've had mine. One doesn't cancel out the other. Can you bear it? Or is it always "freedom of expression for me, and not for thee" with you? So of course, I've done nothing whatsoever to "stop" your freedom of expression; to say "you can't have it"; or to somehow even "place a chill on it". Again, what *utter tripe*. I've merely said your art is bad art; your idea is a bad idea; and I'm right about that. It's my conviction, and you'll have to live with it; that's what freedom of expression and tolerance *are*. I think you are wrong, and your idea is bad, because I think it is false and a lie; you bash on what you see as "low culture" in SL; you hate on sex or drama or cheap malls or whatever you find "non-aesthetic," but then...your own message is hollow and shallow. You can't seem to define yourself in any way except by hating on something else, invoking something else. That is not beauty. That is not art. That is propaganda. No, I will not be "more comprehensive and less hurtful". Why? Have you no concept of what criticism and dissent are all about? are you such a wilting flower that you can put out this *kitsch* and provoke us all to weep big silicon tears in our artificial life, and then not be able to take it when someone says, "No, I won't. I refuse." I have no interest in meeting you in world WHATSOEVER. What a tribal affectation! As if you can meet with someone, and make their actual genuine real point of view "go away"! As if it is based merely on "anger". It isn't. It's based on a sharp, penetrating realization that you are making shallow kitsch, and that the only way you can tart up this display is by banging on sex, drama, money. For shame. You are merely more of the same. Honestly it is fully *despicable* and totally *dishonest* intellectually -- and perhaps you have no pretentions of being an intellectual, and that's the problem! -- to say "Let me have a little freedom" as if *disagreeing* with you takes away your freedom. It doesn't. Deal with it. Grow up. The world is not the Singularity. You do not own it. I am not a gadget. Sam, you’re pushing that usual false position one encounters so often among the geeks of SL: that if I criticize your position, which I loathe; if I say you’re wrong; if I say I have another point of view, you thrash and beat your chest and claim I’ve told you that you can’t have an opinion or I’ve somehow stopped you from your freedom of expression.

What other tripe. You had your freedom of expression. And, um, now it’s my turn, and I’ve had mine. One doesn’t cancel out the other. Can you bear it? Or is it always “freedom of expression for me, and not for thee” with you?

So of course, I’ve done nothing whatsoever to “stop” your freedom of expression; to say “you can’t have it”; or to somehow even “place a chill on it”. Again, what *utter tripe*. I’ve merely said your art is bad art; your idea is a bad idea; and I’m right about that.

It’s my conviction, and you’ll have to live with it; that’s what freedom of expression and tolerance *are*. I think you are wrong, and your idea is bad, because I think it is false and a lie; you bash on what you see as “low culture” in SL; you hate on sex or drama or cheap malls or whatever you find “non-aesthetic,” but then…your own message is hollow and shallow. You can’t seem to define yourself in any way except by hating on something else, invoking something else. That is not beauty. That is not art. That is propaganda.

No, I will not be “more comprehensive and less hurtful”. Why? Have you no concept of what criticism and dissent are all about? are you such a wilting flower that you can put out this *kitsch* and provoke us all to weep big silicon tears in our artificial life, and then not be able to take it when someone says, “No, I won’t. I refuse.”

I have no interest in meeting you in world WHATSOEVER. What a tribal affectation! As if you can meet with someone, and make their actual genuine real point of view “go away”! As if it is based merely on “anger”. It isn’t. It’s based on a sharp, penetrating realization that you are making shallow kitsch, and that the only way you can tart up this display is by banging on sex, drama, money. For shame. You are merely more of the same.

Honestly it is fully *despicable* and totally *dishonest* intellectually — and perhaps you have no pretentions of being an intellectual, and that’s the problem! — to say “Let me have a little freedom” as if *disagreeing* with you takes away your freedom. It doesn’t. Deal with it. Grow up. The world is not the Singularity. You do not own it. I am not a gadget.

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By: c3 http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/05/16/second-life-refresh-in-case-youve-forgotten-why/comment-page-1/#comment-195891 c3 Tue, 18 May 2010 01:15:55 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2259#comment-195891 juanita read your post...correct analysis. and its been the way LL has been from day one. btw- read online about the "artist" who treid to buy an IPAD at the apple store with cash...600usd.. and was refused. Apple wont sell to those with cash.. only a credit card/debit card... Apple like Linden, con artists.. not artists.;) juanita
read your post…correct analysis.

and its been the way LL has been from day one.

btw- read online about the “artist” who treid to buy an IPAD at the apple store with cash…600usd.. and was refused.

Apple wont sell to those with cash.. only a credit card/debit card…

Apple like Linden, con artists.. not artists.;)

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By: Juanita Deharo http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/05/16/second-life-refresh-in-case-youve-forgotten-why/comment-page-1/#comment-195883 Juanita Deharo Tue, 18 May 2010 00:54:11 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2259#comment-195883 Sam, I guess the machinima has been a catalyst for thought for many - not just about your content, but about where we are going with SL art. It made me think .... see my blog post Secrets, Rumour, Fear -http://bit.ly/ciSptq .....which was my personal reaction to this posting of your video by Dusan. Sam, I guess the machinima has been a catalyst for thought for many – not just about your content, but about where we are going with SL art. It made me think …. see my blog post Secrets, Rumour, Fear -http://bit.ly/ciSptq …..which was my personal reaction to this posting of your video by Dusan.

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