Comments on: Second Life Growth: New Groups versus New Users http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/08/10/second-life-growth-new-groups-versus-new-users/ Virtual worlds and creativity, business, collaboration, and identity. Thu, 07 Jul 2011 19:08:27 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mark http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/08/10/second-life-growth-new-groups-versus-new-users/comment-page-1/#comment-217779 Mark Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:16:53 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2475#comment-217779 And this would be enormously useful for classes. It's a laborious process, getting all the students registered, finding out their avatar names and adding them as contacts, then creating a group and getting them all together in one place. A way to do this all through a single email would save a huge amount of time. And this would be enormously useful for classes. It’s a laborious process, getting all the students registered, finding out their avatar names and adding them as contacts, then creating a group and getting them all together in one place. A way to do this all through a single email would save a huge amount of time.

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By: Kerryth http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/08/10/second-life-growth-new-groups-versus-new-users/comment-page-1/#comment-217410 Kerryth Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:59:38 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2475#comment-217410 I entirely agree wish this essay. I would not be in SL if I had not come in with a group. Those who were already in SL helped and mentored those who were coming in new. Many of us are still there and we still have a strong group identity. We were part of the diaspora from a discontinued online game, so we were already accustomed to the idea of "being" avatars; that may have made a difference. I entirely agree wish this essay. I would not be in SL if I had not come in with a group. Those who were already in SL helped and mentored those who were coming in new. Many of us are still there and we still have a strong group identity. We were part of the diaspora from a discontinued online game, so we were already accustomed to the idea of “being” avatars; that may have made a difference.

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By: c3 http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/08/10/second-life-growth-new-groups-versus-new-users/comment-page-1/#comment-216988 c3 Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:17:45 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2475#comment-216988 "When the majority of SLers get over being upset that they are adults and start understanding that it’s a good thing, I think SL will make some progress." if ONLY this was a SL problem... Scott Pilgrim vs the World.. a autistic comic book geek and his comic book geek world..now the most talked about "film" in the states this week... 50 is the new 30 and 30 the new 10... the fanatasies of the "digital" generation and the "media "generation before them. mental and physical- aided by tech and pharmaceutal drug pushers.:) peter pan and despots win. “When the majority of SLers get over being upset that they are adults and start understanding that it’s a good thing, I think SL will make some progress.”

if ONLY this was a SL problem…

Scott Pilgrim vs the World.. a autistic comic book geek and his comic book geek world..now the most talked about “film” in the states this week…

50 is the new 30 and 30 the new 10… the fanatasies of the “digital” generation and the “media “generation before them.

mental and physical- aided by tech and pharmaceutal drug pushers.:)

peter pan and despots win.

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By: Radar http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/08/10/second-life-growth-new-groups-versus-new-users/comment-page-1/#comment-216915 Radar Wed, 11 Aug 2010 06:26:11 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2475#comment-216915 c3 has it right, I think the culture of SL dooms it. It's all immersive, all hide behind the avatar, and it not only inhibits ease of entry, it's also tiresome for people who don't want alts renting adjacent properties and pretending not to be each other, etc. When the majority of SLers get over being upset that they are adults and start understanding that it's a good thing, I think SL will make some progress. Truthfully, I don't see this ever happening though. c3 has it right, I think the culture of SL dooms it. It’s all immersive, all hide behind the avatar, and it not only inhibits ease of entry, it’s also tiresome for people who don’t want alts renting adjacent properties and pretending not to be each other, etc. When the majority of SLers get over being upset that they are adults and start understanding that it’s a good thing, I think SL will make some progress.

Truthfully, I don’t see this ever happening though.

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By: c3 http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/08/10/second-life-growth-new-groups-versus-new-users/comment-page-1/#comment-216778 c3 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:17:49 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2475#comment-216778 both SL and open sims hosts have been a disaster of quick "interest" usage from the so called 500 million faces...:) web based browser or not, the difficulty of "just wanting to look" at "something" has held back this platform's "solutions" for years. My open sims efforts have honestly been pretty much only pr fluff within the 50 sl blogger network. The task for most anyone beyond a "builder hobbiest" or frankly a "teacher hobbiest" to ever 'reach" a sim, is almost herculian in nature. for 15 plus years ive tried to convey the message that virtuality had best be used as "just a business" tool/medium. all i see is cyclic "metahype" from those who refuse to even study the past of a 5 year cycle. futurism indeed. run amok.like a cult. both SL and open sims hosts have been a disaster of quick “interest” usage from the so called 500 million faces…:)

web based browser or not, the difficulty of “just wanting to look” at “something” has held back this platform’s “solutions” for years.

My open sims efforts have honestly been pretty much only pr fluff within the 50 sl blogger network. The task for most anyone beyond a “builder hobbiest” or frankly a “teacher hobbiest” to ever ‘reach” a sim, is almost herculian in nature.

for 15 plus years ive tried to convey the message that virtuality had best be used as “just a business” tool/medium.

all i see is cyclic “metahype” from those who refuse to even study the past of a 5 year cycle.

futurism indeed. run amok.like a cult.

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By: soror nishi http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/08/10/second-life-growth-new-groups-versus-new-users/comment-page-1/#comment-216773 soror nishi Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:42:44 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2475#comment-216773 The unformed avatars is an interesting idea as that would circumvent the decisions etc that some would find annoying. Rather they could stroll right in to open events. Obviously there could be problems, but if they are listed as friends of premium members, some accountability could be provided. All in all tho, I continue to believe that if SL progressed forward in a way that has been seriously lacking these last few years, people would be queueing to get in... Continued angst about numbers, groups or otherwise, is a secondary symptom rather than a primary issue. The unformed avatars is an interesting idea as that would circumvent the decisions etc that some would find annoying. Rather they could stroll right in to open events.

Obviously there could be problems, but if they are listed as friends of premium members, some accountability could be provided.

All in all tho, I continue to believe that if SL progressed forward in a way that has been seriously lacking these last few years, people would be queueing to get in…

Continued angst about numbers, groups or otherwise, is a secondary symptom rather than a primary issue.

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By: Metacam Oh http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/08/10/second-life-growth-new-groups-versus-new-users/comment-page-1/#comment-216766 Metacam Oh Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:56:59 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2475#comment-216766 I agree with all of this, and would even take it a step further, they need to create guest accounts, they should be able to have a choice to sign up (on your webpage /regapi) or go straight in as a guest, maybe the guest is a gray ghost or something but anything to allow people to go in and explore before giving out their info and embarking on a Second Life. Land owners etc could have an option whether they want to allow these anonymous guest avatars in, but I would assume venue owners, musical performances etc would be open to this type of thing. I agree with all of this, and would even take it a step further, they need to create guest accounts, they should be able to have a choice to sign up (on your webpage /regapi) or go straight in as a guest, maybe the guest is a gray ghost or something but anything to allow people to go in and explore before giving out their info and embarking on a Second Life. Land owners etc could have an option whether they want to allow these anonymous guest avatars in, but I would assume venue owners, musical performances etc would be open to this type of thing.

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By: SLCC 2010 « Ahuva’s Blog http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/08/10/second-life-growth-new-groups-versus-new-users/comment-page-1/#comment-216710 SLCC 2010 « Ahuva’s Blog Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:36:26 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2475#comment-216710 [...] networking. I suspect that is a very déclassé admission. I loved Dusan Writer’s post about the dots on the grid. Unless I am at a music event or a friend has dropped in (or I am on a Midnight Mania board run), I [...] [...] networking. I suspect that is a very déclassé admission. I loved Dusan Writer’s post about the dots on the grid. Unless I am at a music event or a friend has dropped in (or I am on a Midnight Mania board run), I [...]

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