Comments on: The Kids Drop In: Second Life, Getting Younger

By: Dusan Writer’s Metaverse » I’m a Genius! Teen Grid to Merge with Main Grid

Dusan Writer’s Metaverse » I’m a Genius! Teen Grid to Merge with Main Grid — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:35:50 +0000

[...] Grid and its imminent demise. Now, I don’t usually get much right, but a scant 5 hours after my post, Terrence Linden announced, well, that Teens would be ‘welcome’ on the Main [...]

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By: Dusan

Dusan — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:11:07 +0000

Hahaha true enough Tateru.

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By: Tateru Nino

Tateru Nino — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:00:25 +0000

What interests me is how some of the most popularly circulated speculations as to how it might work are only really a few lines of code from how it works already

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By: Dusan

Dusan — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:06:29 +0000

Lalo/tateru:

OK, this is going to seem a little like semantics but I think we’re confusing “The Grid” with the “grids”.

Let me put it this way:

- There is one “Grid” – a collection of services (servers, asset servers, etc.)

- This single Grid is expressed visually as a map

- HOWEVER, there is also the Main Grid and the Teen Grid. These are defined by the sub-routines built into the code that runs the services.

Currently, access to the servers (land), assets (asset server), identity information is all ONE THING, but it is divided via sub-routine between Teen Grid and Main Grid.

Philip made it quite clear at SLCC that the issue with supporting the Teen Grid wasn’t the support staff etc., but rather that because of the sub-routines built into the code that runs all of the services, every time there is a change in code, they need to make sure the sub-routines still work.

Therefore, there are two grids within one larger cluster of services, services, infrastructure, etc. which are defined by the sub-routines that are run which determine whether a person, asset or server is MG or TG.

By saying that they will move the TG to the MG, what I mean is that they will eliminate these sub-routines. There will be one Grid and they will push the definition of “Teen Area” to estate-level commands and changes to the Viewer (if required by educators in order to filter adult vs other content).

YES, the Teen Grid always ran on the same servers and infrastructure – but the SUB-ROUTINES within those servers and infrastructure defined TG vs MG.

I am proposing they will remove those sub-routines and simplify things by allowing schools to have their own version of the RegAPI through which the avatars that are created will be automatically flagged as being “pinned to an estate”.

Not sure if that makes sense and I’m sure it might seem like semantics, but Tateru’s comment about how the teens could hack the recognition of assets shows, if nothing else, that the sub-routines probably weren’t the way to go in the first place and became very expensive to maintain.

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By: Vivienne Schell

Vivienne Schell — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:08:08 +0000

i do not know how they will manage this on mainland, where PG regions and mature are mixed. With drawing distances maxed out it should not be a problem for the interested youth to obeserve at least some kind of pixel reproduction. Nor will the lawyers of some concerned parents be resticted there. And the youth loves cars and motorycles. Will LL rebuild the traffic system? Questions, questions…

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By: Lalo Telling

Lalo Telling — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:57:35 +0000

Further proof (if needed) of what Tateru posted: the Teen “Grid” can be seen on both the Slurl web page map and the SL website’s world map. It’s that arc of land somewhat resembling an attenuated Cuba, along with a collection of island regions, due east of the Old Continent (Samsara) and southeast of the continent called Corsica.

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By: Tateru Nino

Tateru Nino — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:16:59 +0000

The current situation is that the ‘teen grid’ is an estate on the main grid (agni). The magical part is that adult accounts cannot see the teen estate on the map, or communicate with a forced-PG (teen) account, and vice-versa. Unless you’ve got Linden mojo on your account.

So, basically the teens are currently locked down to a specific PG estate, which is then rendered undetectable to everyone else by the use of mighty and unreliable software magicks.

They do share the same asset and inventory systems and so forth (being the same grid and all), and it’s possible to move content back and forth. There’s a trick teen users use when they want to obtain content from the main-grid that convinces the grid to transfer content into their estate.

That’s the status-quo at present.

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By: Cisop Sixpence

Cisop Sixpence — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:39:55 +0000

Way back when, when they were saying they were going to change the ratings to General, Mature and Adult, I said to a couple others that I bet they are going to merge the Teen Grid with the main Second Life Grid. At the time, they chuckled and said that would never happen. My reasoning was it’s not cost effective to have them as separate grids, and if they can keep those that are under aged from accessing adult content, there are more reasons to merge the two than keep them apart. It’s nice to know someone else had the same idea.

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