Comments on: Decoding Linden Lab 2: Second Life Stream http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/10/05/decoding-linden-lab-2-second-life-stream/ Virtual worlds and creativity, business, collaboration, and identity. Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:25:40 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: cube3 http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/10/05/decoding-linden-lab-2-second-life-stream/comment-page-1/#comment-231656 cube3 Wed, 06 Oct 2010 20:26:47 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2593#comment-231656 isnt that what virtuality is all about though? the mother was already swallowed by virtuality since the 60s... which of course was when TV became "everday and color" and more than one in a home...:) her child, a mirror of media of image and electric networks. - and for every 14 year old who at 16 says, no to the disney network reality machine, another 10000 will say yes. thats the power of the machine. loops and cycles.... the language of the machine. right now "we" are just the lsat remaining fodder" from reality.... but that too will end. if we let it... fast fun and easy....from the mouth of babes rewatch the documentary... ,ill bet you see that scene a new:) isnt that what virtuality is all about though?

the mother was already swallowed by virtuality since the 60s… which of course was when TV became “everday and color” and more than one in a home…:) her child, a mirror of media of image and electric networks. – and for every 14 year old who at 16 says, no to the disney network reality machine, another 10000 will say yes. thats the power of the machine.

loops and cycles…. the language of the machine.
right now “we” are just the lsat remaining fodder” from reality…. but that too will end.

if we let it…

fast fun and easy….from the mouth of babes
rewatch the documentary… ,ill bet you see that scene a new:)

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By: Dusan http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/10/05/decoding-linden-lab-2-second-life-stream/comment-page-1/#comment-231642 Dusan Wed, 06 Oct 2010 18:44:53 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2593#comment-231642 I loved that documentary. I loved how recursive it was, especially at the end where they sort of say "OK, so let's be honest, regardless of anything about how much we learned, we're still sitting here on camera". I couldn't help thinking that once the cameras got turned off they'd sit there staring at each other wondering what to say. But, whatever the lessons were, I still expect a follow-up where the mother ends up on Intervention or something like that, some sort of triple recursion. I loved that documentary. I loved how recursive it was, especially at the end where they sort of say “OK, so let’s be honest, regardless of anything about how much we learned, we’re still sitting here on camera”. I couldn’t help thinking that once the cameras got turned off they’d sit there staring at each other wondering what to say.

But, whatever the lessons were, I still expect a follow-up where the mother ends up on Intervention or something like that, some sort of triple recursion.

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By: c3 http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/10/05/decoding-linden-lab-2-second-life-stream/comment-page-1/#comment-231639 c3 Wed, 06 Oct 2010 18:36:56 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2593#comment-231639 gamez...lol well enjoy them while they last... a rant in progress... http://mediabastard.wordpress.com/2010/10/06/the-end-of-the-papparazzi-state/ wasnt about SL as i ranted it, but a moment of clarity about 2030. anyhow...i was helped by that 14 year old, 16 i think by the documentaries end9 see other post here) his happy ending growth, and the reality that again, it was just another story for humans.... our egos. and the thought that occams razor may no longer be only a human model for action.;) gamez…lol well enjoy them while they last…

a rant in progress…
http://mediabastard.wordpress.com/2010/10/06/the-end-of-the-papparazzi-state/

wasnt about SL as i ranted it, but a moment of clarity about 2030. anyhow…i was helped by that 14 year old, 16 i think by the documentaries end9 see other post here) his happy ending growth, and the reality that again, it was just another story for humans…. our egos.

and the thought that occams razor may no longer be only a human model for action.;)

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By: Dusan http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/10/05/decoding-linden-lab-2-second-life-stream/comment-page-1/#comment-231638 Dusan Wed, 06 Oct 2010 18:28:29 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2593#comment-231638 I like making things complicated, it's a more interesting parlor game. :) I like making things complicated, it’s a more interesting parlor game. :)

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By: Pathfinder http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/10/05/decoding-linden-lab-2-second-life-stream/comment-page-1/#comment-231613 Pathfinder Wed, 06 Oct 2010 14:08:56 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2593#comment-231613 Sorry Dusan, but Occam's Razor immediately springs to my mind after reading this... EDITED: ha! After I wrote this, I see from the comments that cube3 had exactly the same reaction as me. :) Sorry Dusan, but Occam’s Razor immediately springs to my mind after reading this…

EDITED: ha! After I wrote this, I see from the comments that cube3 had exactly the same reaction as me. :)

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By: Corey Hart http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/10/05/decoding-linden-lab-2-second-life-stream/comment-page-1/#comment-231610 Corey Hart Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:53:47 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2593#comment-231610 Hope you're right. Because it's the only rational explanation I've run across. Hope you’re right. Because it’s the only rational explanation I’ve run across.

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By: Henry C. Alphin Jr. : http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/10/05/decoding-linden-lab-2-second-life-stream/comment-page-1/#comment-231412 Henry C. Alphin Jr. : Tue, 05 Oct 2010 21:04:25 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2593#comment-231412 [...] Dusan Writer’s Metaverse » Decoding Linden Lab 2: Second Life Stream This morning I proposed that you could read the tea leaves of Linden Lab’s announcement of a price increase for the education and non-profit community and, if you tried really hard, see the outlines of a master plan in which Linden Lab would eventually split into multiple companies: [...] [...] Dusan Writer’s Metaverse » Decoding Linden Lab 2: Second Life Stream This morning I proposed that you could read the tea leaves of Linden Lab’s announcement of a price increase for the education and non-profit community and, if you tried really hard, see the outlines of a master plan in which Linden Lab would eventually split into multiple companies: [...]

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By: John http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/10/05/decoding-linden-lab-2-second-life-stream/comment-page-1/#comment-231411 John Tue, 05 Oct 2010 20:57:23 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2593#comment-231411 Server side rendering makes sense. It would be a new source of income for the Lindens (which they can use to invest in the technology). Also more and more people run around with smartphones, netbooks etc., devices that can´t handle SL. A cloud version would make it possible to run SL on any of those devices. Now I am wondering, how difficult and how expensive would it be to implement such a technology? Is it realistic to have that soon? Server side rendering makes sense. It would be a new source of income for the Lindens (which they can use to invest in the technology). Also more and more people run around with smartphones, netbooks etc., devices that can´t handle SL. A cloud version would make it possible to run SL on any of those devices. Now I am wondering, how difficult and how expensive would it be to implement such a technology? Is it realistic to have that soon?

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By: cube3 http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/10/05/decoding-linden-lab-2-second-life-stream/comment-page-1/#comment-231409 cube3 Tue, 05 Oct 2010 20:49:31 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2593#comment-231409 access based on land? all content copybotted to be used by those who "run events" cause they can afford a sim? whats wrong with this picture? ... occums razor... a sell off of whats left to someone... and the end of this con. 5 years are up... access based on land? all content copybotted to be used by those who “run events” cause they can afford a sim?

whats wrong with this picture?

… occums razor… a sell off of whats left to someone… and the end of this con. 5 years are up…

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By: Ezra http://dusanwriter.com/index.php/2010/10/05/decoding-linden-lab-2-second-life-stream/comment-page-1/#comment-231398 Ezra Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:37:06 +0000 http://dusanwriter.com/?p=2593#comment-231398 Why on Earth would they ever off-load the costs of server-side rendering onto residents rather than the sim tier-payers? If server-side rendering occurs, expect the costs to be abstracted into tier payments for simulator holders the same way bandwidth, compute hours of server uptime, voice, and server-side everything else already is. I see no reason to imagine or even believe it'd be a good idea for Linden Lab to do anything else. Why on Earth would they ever off-load the costs of server-side rendering onto residents rather than the sim tier-payers?

If server-side rendering occurs, expect the costs to be abstracted into tier payments for simulator holders the same way bandwidth, compute hours of server uptime, voice, and server-side everything else already is.

I see no reason to imagine or even believe it’d be a good idea for Linden Lab to do anything else.

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